i came across this in my research, there is much upon the web about this writing
i am not saying it is true or falsely done, a hoax or not/ who can say these days
yet i did how ever find it a very interesting read and figured why not create my own web page on this matter
so tell me please what do you think ???
the channeler or interviewer / which ever the case may be
is identified only as E.F.
a man from Sweden, where this took place in a small warm room somewhere before this interview
this particular interview was granted in E.F’s. presence yet given to a young lady
(unknown)
i have to date been unable to find any thing of the full interview and all the supposed
technical details relieved, this is the shortened version as stated in all my findings
i am furthering my research into this matter and will update
here is my transliterated version as there is a tremendous amount of illiterately written phrasings
contained in the copies i have found and read
so here in is the controversial interview
with a female reptilian being, claiming birth rights to our planet earth
and stating we the humans are the alien species
ENJOY !
you may if you wish simply Google the “Lacreta files”
for the original version to compare with this my transliteration
i think after having created these two pages
i will how ever place personal statements or questions among the topic as we go along
December 16, 1999
Question:
First of all, who are you and what are you?
Are you an extraterrestrial species or can your origin be found on this planet?
Answer:
As you can see with your own eyes,
I’m not a human being like you
and to be honest I’m not a real mammal
(despite my partly mammal-like body features, which are a result of evolution)
I am a female reptile being
belonging to a very old reptilian race
We are the native terrans
and we have lived on this planet for millions of years
We are mentioned in your religious writings like the Christian Bible
and many of the ancient human tribes were aware of our presence
and worshiped us as gods
for example the Egyptians, the Inca and many other older tribes
Your Christian religion has misunderstood our role in your creation, so we are mentioned as
“evil serpent”
( the serpent that miss led Eve in the garden of Eden )
in those writings
This is wrong
Your race was genetically engineered by aliens
and we were just the more or less passive visitors of this accelerated evolution process
You must know
(some of your scientists have already supposed this)
that your species had evolved in a “non naturally” completely impossible speed
within just 2 to 3 million years
This is absolutely impossible, because evolution operates at a much slower process
if it’s natural
but you have not
nor do you understand this
Your creation was artificially done by genetic engineering,
not by us
but by an alien species
You ask me, if I’m an extraterrestrial,
I must answer
No
We are the native terrans
We had and have some colonies in the solar system,
but we originate on this planet
It is in fact “our planet” and not yours – it was never yours
Question:
Can you tell me your name?
Answer:
This is difficult, because your human tongue is not able to pronounce it correctly
(and a mispronunciation of our names is very offensive for some of my kind)
Our language is very different from yours, but my name is —I will try to say it smoother
by use of your human letters— something like
“Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh”
with a very, very strong pronunciation of the “sh” and “k” sounds
We have no forenames like you
only a single but unique name which is divided and characterized by the way of speaking
and which is given not to our children
(who have their own children-name)
but only in a special procedure in the adolescent age at the time of either
religious or scientific
“enlightenment”
or awareness
(as you would call it)
I would appreciate it if you do not try to say my real name with your human tongue
Please call me
“Lacerta”
this is the name I generally use when I’m among humans and talk with them
Question:
How old are you?
Answer:
We do not measure time like you do in astronomical years
in the revolving of the earth around sun, because we usually live beneath the surface of the planet
Our time measurement depends on periodically returning cycles in the earth’s magnetic field
and according to this
(said with your numbers)
I’m today —let me calculate— 57,653 cycles old
I have reached my adult phase and my awareness of 16,337 cycles ago
(this is a very important date for us)
According to your human time scale I’m around 28 years old
Question:
What is your task?
Do you have a “job” like us?
Answer:
To say it with your words:
I’m a curios student of the social behavior of your species
That’s why I’m here and talk to you, that’s why I have revealed my real nature to E.F.
and now to you and that’s why I give you all that secret information and why I will try to answer
all the questions on your many sheets of paper honestly
I will observe how you react, how others of your kind react
There are so many crazies and liars of your kind on this planet
who claim to know the truth about us,
about UFOs,
about aliens and so on and some of you believe their lies
I’m interested to see how your species will react if you make the truth
(which I will tell you now)
“public”
I’m quite sure everyone of you will refuse to believe my words,
I hope I’m wrong, because you need to understand
(if you want to survive the coming years)
Question:
I’ve read your full statement
(which you have given to E.F.)
about this, but can you give me now just a short answer?
Are UFOs real flying objects piloted by extraterrestrials or do they belong to your species?
Answer:
Some observed UFOs – as you call them – belong to us, but most not
Most of the “mysterious” flying objects in the sky are not technological devices
but mainly misinterpretations of natural phenomena your scientists have not understood
(like spontaneous plasma flares in the high atmosphere)
Nevertheless, some UFOs are real craft belonging either to your own species
(especially to your military)
or to other alien species or at last to us
(but a minority of sighted craft belongs in reality to us)
because we are generally very careful with our movements in the atmosphere
and we have special ways to hide our ships
If you read a report about a sighting of a metallic bright-gray cigar-shaped cylindrical object
with a length of —there are different types— let me say between 20 and 260 of your meters
and if this object had made a very deep humming sound and if there were 4 bright red lights on
the metallic surface of the craft
(one at the top, one in the middle, two at the end)
then it’s likely that some of you have seen one of our ships and this means that it was either
partly defect or that someone of us was not careful enough
We have also a very small fleet of disc-shaped craft,
but such UFOs belong usually to an alien species
Triangular UFOs belong generally to your own military but they use foreign technology to build them
If you really want to try to see one of our craft, you should have a look at the skies over
the Arctic, the Antarctic and over Inner Asia
(especially over the mountains there)
Question:
Have you a special symbol or something like that with which we can identify your kind?
Answer:
We have two major symbols representing our species
One
(the more ancient)
symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background
(the colors have religious meanings for us)
This symbol was used from certain parts of my society,
but it is today used very seldom
you humans have copied it very often in your old writings
The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a
“Dragon”
in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle
This symbol is much more common today
If you see one of that symbols on a cylindrical craft I’ve described in my previous answer
or on some underground installation,
this thing or place belongs definitely to us
(and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible!)
Question:
The seven stars in the second symbol you’ve mentioned, do they mean the Pleiades?
Answer:
Pleiades? No.
Actually, the seven stars are planets, moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies
in the solar system
The stars are shown in front of a blue background
and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth
The seven white stars mean
Moon,
Mars,
Venus
and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, we had colonized in the past
Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct
Question:
As you have not allowed me to take photos —what would be very useful to prove your real existence
and the truth of this story, can you describe yourself detailed?
Answer:
I know that it would be helpful to prove the authenticity of this interview
if you can make some photos from me
Otherwise, you humans are very skeptic
(that’s good for us and for the real alien species acting secretly on this planet)
so even if you had such photos, many of your kind would say that they are fraud,
that I’m just a masked human woman or something like that
(that would be very offensive for me)
You must understand that I can’t give you permission to make photos of me or of my equipment
This having various reasons, which I want not to discuss with you further,
but one of the reasons is the keeping up of the secrecy of our existence,
another reason is more religious
Nevertheless, you have permission to make drawings of my look
and of my equipment I can show you later
I can also try to describe myself, but I doubt that others of your kind will be able to imagine
my real look just from simple words,
because the automatic denial of the existence of reptilian species
and generally of intelligent species other than your own is part of the programming of your mind
things you are taught from a very young age
Well, I will try
Imagine the body of a normal human woman and if you have at first a good imagination of my body
Like you, I have a head, two arms, two hands, two legs and two feet
and the proportions of my body are like yours
As I’m female I have also two breasts despite our reptile origin,
we have started to give milk to our babies during the evolution process
this happened around 30 million years ago
because this is the best thing to keep the young alive
Evolution had done this for your species already in the dinosaur age
and —a little bit later— also for ours
That does not mean that we are now real mammals, but the breasts of us are not as large as those of
human woman and the size of them is generally equal for every female of my kind
The external reproduction organs are for both sexes smaller than those of humans,
but they are visible and they have the same function as yours
(another gift of evolution to our species.)
My skin is mainly of a green-beige colour – more pale green
and we have some patterns of brown irregular dots
(each dot of the size of 1 – 2 centimeters)
on our body skin and on our face
(the patterns are different for both sexes but females have more)
(especially in the lower body and in the face)
You can see them in my case as two lines over the eyebrows crossing my forehead,
at my cheek and at my chin
My eyes are a little bit larger than human eyes
(for this reason, we can see better in the darkness)
and usually dominated from the large black pupils,
which are surrounded from a small bright-green iris
(males have a dark-green iris)
The pupil is slit and can change its size from a small black line to a wide-open egg-shaped oval,
because our retina is very light sensitive and the pupil must adjust to this
We have external round ears but they are smaller and not so curved as yours,
but we can hear better because our ears are more sensitive to sonic vibration
(we can also hear a wider range of sonic)
There’s a muscle or “lid” over the ears which can completely close them
(for example under water)
Our nose is more pointed and there is a V-shaped curving between the nostrils,
which enabled the ancestors to “see” temperature
We have lost most of this ability,
but we can still feel temperature much better with this “organ”
Our lips are shaped like yours
(those of females a little bit larger than those of males)
but of a pale brown colour and our teeth are very white and strong
and a little bit longer and sharper than your soft mammal teeth
We have no different hair colors like you
(but there is a tradition to colour the hairs in different ages)
and the original colour is —like mine— a greenish brown
Our hairs are thicker and stronger than yours and they grow very slowly
In addition, the head is the only part of our body where we have hair
Our body, arms and legs are similar in shape and size to yours,
but the color is different (green-beige, like the face)
and there are scale-like structures on the upper legs (over the knee)
and upper arms (over the elbow)
Our five fingers are a little bit longer and thinner than human fingers
and our skin on the palm is plain,
so we have no lines like you, but again a combination of a scale-like skin structure
and of the brown dots
(both sexes have the dots on the palm)
and we have no fingerprints
If you touch my skin, you will feel that it is smoother than your hairy skin
There are small sharp horns on the upside of both middle fingers
The fingernails are grey and generally longer than yours
You see that my nails are not so long and round at the top
This is because I’m female
Males have sharp pointed nails with a length of sometimes 5 or 6 of your centimeters
The following feature is very different from your body
and part of our reptilian origin: if you touch the backside of my upper body
you will feel a hard bony line through my clothing
This is not my spine but a very difficult shaped external plate-structure of skin and tissue
following exactly our spine from the head to the hip
There is an extremely high number of nerves and large blood vessels in this structure
and in the plates which are around two or three centimeters long and very touch sensitive
this is the reason why we always have problems sitting in chairs with a back like this chair
The main task of these small plates
(beside a role in our sexuality)
is simply the regulation of our body temperature and if we sit in natural or artificial sunlight,
these plates become more blood-filled and the vessels become wider
and the sun is able to heat up our reptoid blood many degrees higher
(which circulates through the body and through the plates)
and that gives us a great pleasure
What else is different from your kind?
Oh, we have no navel, because we were born in a different way to your mammal birth
The other exterior differences from your kind are minor and I think I must not mention all now,
because most of them are not visible if we wear clothing
I hope the description of my body was detailed enough
I would advise you to make some drawings
Question:
What kind of clothing do you generally wear?
I suppose this is not the way you dress normally?
Answer:
No,
I wear this human every-day-clothing only when I’m among humans
To be honest, it’s not very comfortable for me to wear such tight things
and it is always a very unusual feeling
If we are in our own home
(this means in our subterranean home)
or in our large artificial sun areas and if we are together with others near to our own name,
we are usually naked
Is this shocking for you?
When we are in the public and together with many others of my species
we wear very wide and soft clothing made of thin, light materials
I have told you that many parts of our bodies are very touch sensitive,
mostly the small back plates so we can’t feel comfortable in tight clothing
because it can hurt us
Man and woman wear often the same kind of clothing, but the colors are different for the sexes
Question:
You’ve said
“others near to your own name”
Do you mean your family?
Answer:
No, not really
You would call it “family” but with this word you mean only those of your kind
which belong genetically together like father or mother and child
As I have said earlier we have a very difficult and unique name
Part of the pronunciation of that name is absolute unique
and there is no other being with the same name,
but part of this name (the middle part) is pronounced in a way that told the others to which
(I must use this word, because you haven’t the right one in your vocabulary)
“family”
you belong to
This means not that all in that group are genetically related to you,
because these groups are usually very large and contain between 40 and 70 of us
This group includes generally your genetic relations
except one of them had decided to leave this group
and your connection with father and mother is often the strongest
It would be too difficult for me to explain to you now our very old social system
which is very complex and we would need many hours only for the primary things
Maybe we can meet another time and I can give you detailed descriptions of all these things
Question:
Have you a tail like normal reptiles?
Answer:
Do you see one?
No, we have no visible tail
If you look at our skeleton,
there is only a small rounded bone at the end of our spine behind the pelvis
This is a useless rudiment of the tail of our ancestors,
but it is not visible from the outside
Oh, our embryos have tails during the first months of development,
but these tails disappear before they were born
A tail makes only sense for a primitive species which tries to walk on two legs
and must held the balance with the tail,
but our skeleton had changed during evolution and our spine is nearly in the same shape as yours,
so we need no tail to stay on two feet
Question:
You said that you were born in a different way to us
Do you lay eggs?
Answer:
Yes,
but not like your birds or primitive reptiles
Actually, the embryo grows in a protein liquid inside the mother’s womb,
but there is also an egg-shaped but very thin chalk hull around it, that fills the whole womb
The embryo inside this hull is completely autarky = (self sufficient) from the mother’s body
and it has every substance it needs to develop inside this chalk hull
There is also a cord like your navel cord which is connected to a point hidden behind the back plates
When the baby is going to be born,
the whole egg is pressed through the vagina covered in a slimy protein substance
and the baby comes out of this soft egg after some minutes
These two horns on our middle fingers were instinctively used from babies to break through
the chalk hull to take their first breath
Our young are not so large as your babies when they were born,
they are between 30 and 35 of your centimeters long,
the egg is around 40 centimeters tall
(this is because our vagina is smaller than a human one)
but we grow to a normal size of 1,60 to 1,80 meters
Question:
What about your body temperature?
You’ve said that you enjoy to lay in the sun. What effect has this to your organism?
Answer:
We are not mammals and as reptiles
our body temperature depends on the temperature of our surroundings
If you touch my hand you will maybe feel that it is colder than yours,
because our normal body temperature is around 30 to 33 degree Celsius
If we sit in the sun
(especially naked and with our row of small back plates in the sun)
our body temperature can rise for 8 or 9 degrees within minutes
This rise causes a production of many enzymes and hormones in our body,
our heart and brain and every organ becomes more active and we feel than very, very good
You humans only enjoy being in the sun but for us it is the greatest pleasure you can imagine
(maybe like your sexual excitement)
We also enjoy swimming in very warm water or other liquids to rise our body temperature
If we are for some hours in the shadow, our temperature goes back to 30 to 33 degrees
This can cause no harm to us, but we feel much better in the sun
We have artificial sun-rooms in the underground but this is not the same for us like the real sun
Question:
What do you eat?
Answer:
Generally various things like you: flesh, fruit, vegetables, special kinds of fungus
(from subterranean farms)
and other things, We can also eat and digest some substances which are poisonous for you
The main difference between you and us is that we “must” eat flesh,
because our body needs the proteins
We can’t live completely vegetarian like your kind because our digestion would stop working
and we would die after some weeks or maybe months without flesh
Many of us eat raw flesh or other things which would be disgusting for you
Personally, I prefer cooked flesh and surface fruits like apples or oranges
Question:
Can you tell me something about the natural history and evolution of your species?
How old is your species?
Have you evolved from primitive reptiles as mankind has evolved from apes?
Answer:
Oh, this is a very long and complex story
and it sounds certainly unbelievable to you,
( but it’s the truth )
I will try to explain it in short
Around 65 million years ago, many of our unadvanced ancestors from the dinosaur race died
in a great global cataclysm
The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster
an asteroid impact as your scientists believe falsely
( but a war between two enemy alien groups )
that took place mainly in the spacial orbit and high atmosphere of our planet
According to our limited knowledge about the early days this global war was the first alien war
on planet earth but it was definitely not the last
(and a future war is coming soon)
(while a “cold war” – as you call it – between alien groups is ongoing since the last 73 years on your planet)
The opponents in this 65 million year old war were two advanced alien species,
whose names are again not pronounceable for your tongues
I’m able to say them but it would hurt your ears if I tell you the names in their original way
One race was humanoid like your species
(but much older)
and was from this universe
from a solar system in the star constellation you call “Procyon” today in your maps
The other species – about which we know not so much – was a reptilian species,
but they have nothing to do with our own species,
because we have evolved from local saurians without exterior influence
(except the successful manipulation of our own genes by us. More about that later)
The advanced reptilian species came not from this universe
but from a – well, how should I explain it to you
Your scientists have not really understood the true nature of the universe,
because your illogical mind is not able to see the easiest things and relies on wrong mathematics and numbers
( This is part of the genetic programming of your kind to which I will come to later )
Let me say, that you are nearly as far away from the understanding of the universe as you were 500 years ago
To use a term you will maybe understand: the other species came not from this universe
but from another “bubble” in the foam of the
” Omniverse ”
You would call it maybe another dimension,
but this is not the right word to describe it correctly
(by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong in the way you understand it)
The fact you should remember is,
that advanced species are able to “walk” between bubbles by use of – as you would call it
quantum technology
and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind
(my own species had also advanced mental abilities in comparison to your species,)
(but we are not able to do the matter-string/bubble changing without technology,)
(but other species active on this planet are able to)
(and this looks to you like magic as it had to your ancestors)
Back to our own history:
the first species
(the humanoids)
had reached Earth around 150 years before the reptilians
and they built some colonies on the former continents
There was a large colony on the continent you call “Antarctica” today
and another one in the continent you call “Asia” today
These people lived together with animal-like saurians on the planet without problems
When the advanced reptilian species arrived in this system,
the humanoid colonists from “Procyon” tried to communicate peacefully,
but they were not successful and a global war started within months
You must understand
that both species were interested in this young planet not for the biology and undeveloped species,
but for only one reason:
“raw material”
especially
copper
To understand this reason,
you must know that copper is a very important material for some advanced species
(even today)
because it is – together with some unstable materials – able to produce new stable elements
if you induce a high electromagnetic field in the right angle with a high nuclear radiation field
to produce an over-crossing of fluctuating fields
The fusion of copper with other elements in such a magnetic/radiation field-chamber
can produce a force field of a special nature that is very useful for various technological tasks
(but the base for this is an extremely complex formula)
(you are not able to discover because of the restrictions of your simple mind)
Both species wanted to have the copper of Planet Earth
and for this reason they fought a not very long war in space and orbit
The humanoid species seemed to be successful during the first time,
but in a last battle the reptilians decided to use a mighty experimental weapon
a special kind of fusion bomb which should destroy the life forms on the planet
but should not harm the valuable raw materials and the copper
The bomb was fired from space and detonated at a point of your planet you call “Middle America” today
As it detonated in the ocean, it produced an unpredictable fusion with hydrogen and the effect
was much stronger than the reptilians had expected
A deadly radiation,
an over-production of fusion-oxygen
a fall-out of different elements and a
“nuclear winter”
for nearly 200 years were the result
Most of the humanoids were killed and the reptilians lost their interest on the planet after some years for
(even for us)
unknown reasons – maybe because of the radiation
Planet Earth was on its own again and the animals on the surface died
By the way, one result of the fusion bomb was the fall-out of different elements
and materials created in the burning process and one of those materials was Iridium
Your human scientists today see the Iridium concentration in the ground
as an evidence for an asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs
That is not true, but how should you know that?
Well, most of the dinosaurs died
(not all in the detonation but in the bad things which came after the war)
(especially in the nuclear winter and in the fall-out)
Nearly all dinosaurs and reptilians were dead within the first 20 years
Some of them —especially those in the oceans— were able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years
even in this changed world, but these species also died,
because the climate had changed
The nuclear winter ended after 200 years, but it was colder on earth than before
Despite the cataclysm, some species were able to survive:
fish (like the sharks), birds, little creepy mammals (your ancestors)
various reptiles like crocodiles…
and there was a special kind of small but advanced dinosaurs which had developed together
with the last large animal-reptilians like the species you call Tyrannosaurus
This new reptile was walking on two legs and looked at little bit like your reconstruction of an Iguanodon
(it originated in this family)
but it was smaller (around 1.50 meters tall) with some humanoid features,
a changed bone structure, a larger skull and brain, a hand with a thumb which was able to grab things,
a different organism and digestion, advanced eyes in the middle of the head like your eyes
and most important… with a new and better brain structure
This was our direct ancestor
There are theories that the radiation from the bomb took part in the mutations
of the organism of this new breed, but this is not proven
Nevertheless
this little humanoid-like dinosaur evolved during the following 30 million years
as I have said earlier, a species need generally more time to evolve than you think,
(if the evolution is not artificially induced like in your case)
from an animal to a more or less thinking being
These beings were intelligent enough not to die in the next millions of years,
because they learned to change their behavior,
they lived in caves instead in the cold nature and they learned to use stones and branches as first tools
and the use of fire as help to warm themselves
especially to warm their blood which is very important for our kind to survive
During the next 20 million years this species was divided by nature into 27 sub-species
unfortunately, former reptilian species were prone to divide themselves in a more or less illogical way
into sub-species during the evolution process
You can clearly see this in the unnecessary high number of animal-dinosaur species in earlier times
and there were many (mainly primitive) wars between this sub-species for dominance
Well, nature was not very friendly to us and as far a we know from the 27 sub-species 24 were extinct
in primitive wars and in evolution, because their organism and mind was not developed enough to survive
and (as main reason) they were not able to change their blood temperature in the right way
if the climate changed
50 million years after the war and after the end of Dinosaurs, only three
(now also technological)
advanced reptilian species were remaining on this planet together with all the other lower animals
Through natural and artificial crossbreeding these three species were united to one reptilian species
and through the invention of genetic manipulations,
we were able to “eliminate” the dividing-prone genes in our genetic structure
According to our history and belief,
this was the time when our final reptilian race, as you see me today was created by use of genetic engineering
This was around 10 million years ago and our evolution nearly stopped at this point
well,
actually there were some minor changes in our look toward a more humanoid and mammal-like appearance
during the coming ages, but we have not divided again into sub-species
You see, we are a very old race in comparison to your kind,
which was jumping around as small monkey-like animals in the trees at this time while we invented technology,
colonized other planets of this system,
built large cities on this planet
(which disappeared without a trace in the ages)
and engineered our own genes while your genes where still those of animals
10 million years ago the small simians started to grow and they came down from the trees to the ground
(again because of the change of the climate – especially on the so-called African continent)
But they evolved very slow as it is normal for a mammal
and if nothing extraordinary had happened to your kind, we wouldn’t be able to sit here and talk
because I would sit in my comfortable modern house and you would sit in your cave clothed with fur
and trying to discover the secrets of fire – or you would maybe sit in one of our zoos
But the things had developed differently and you believe now you are the
“crown of creation”
and you can sit in the modern house and we must hide and live beneath the earth and in remote areas
Around 1.5 million years ago, another alien species arrived at Earth
it was surprisingly the first species since over 60 million years
This would be more surprising for you if you would know how many different species are today here
The interest of this humanoid species – you call them “Illojim” today – was not the raw material and the copper,
it was to our astonishment the unadvanced ape-humanoids
Despite of our presence on this planet, the aliens decided to “help” the apes to evolve a little bit faster,
to serve them in the future as some kind of slave-race in coming wars
The fate of your species was not really important for us, but we didn’t like the presence of the “Illojim” on our
planet and they didn’t like our presence on their new “galactic zoo” planet
and so your sixth and seventh creation was the reason for a war between us and them
You can read about that war for example partly in the book you call “Bible”
in a very strange way of description
The real truth is a very long and difficult story
Should I continue?
Questioner
No, not now
I’ve made some notes about your history and now I have some questions
Answer:
Please ask
Question:
First of all, you handle with a very large time scale
You claim that your primitive ancestors lived together with the dinosaurs, survived the – as you called it –
artificial cataclysm and evolved then over 40 million years
and your evolution was completed 10 million years ago
This sounds very unbelievable to me
Can you say something to this?
Answer:
I understand that this must sound absolutely unbelievable to you,
because you are a young and genetically engineered species
Your historical horizon ends at a scale of just some thousands of years and you think this is right
But it isn’t
This is impossible
Your programmed mind is obviously not able to handle with such large time scales
Our evolution time may seem incredible long to you,
but this is in fact the original way of nature
Remember, your early mammal ancestors developed together with dinosaurs and they survived the bomb like us
They evolved slowly during the next millions of years and they divided into various species and shapes,
some of them larger, some of them smaller
This is evolution of the body
But what about their mind and intelligence?
They were simple animals
The mammals evolved since —let us say— 150 millions of years,
but only in the last 2 – 3 millions of years they were able to became intelligent and thinking
And within this small period beings like you were created
From nature?
148 millions of year’s time for the evolution of animal-like mammals,
2 millions of year’s time for the development of (more or less) intelligent beings like you?
Ask yourself:
Do you really think this accelerated evolution is natural?
Then your species is more ignorant than I’ve thought
We have not evolved wrong but you
Question:
I understand
But I have another question
You’ve mentioned many facts about the ancient war between the aliens 65 million years ago
This happened very long before your kind became really intelligent
(as far as I have understood you)
Why do you know so many things about that “first war” and about the evolution of your species?
Answer:
This is a good question
(much better than the previous)
and I have not explained it properly to you
Our knowledge about the first war comes completely from an ancient artifact,
which was found around 16,000 years ago from our archeologists on the continent you call North America today
They found there a round plate with a diameter of approximately 47 of your centimeters
The plate was made of an even for us unknown magnetic material and inside the plate there was another smaller
crystal plate which contained an enormous amount of information coded in the molecular structure of
the crystal
This “memory plate” was manufactured from the last bomb survivors of human race from “Procyon” already 65
million years ago but it was completely intact when we found it
Our scientists were able to encode the messages and data and so we heard the first time about the events which
took place in the distant past and which led to the extinction of the dinosaurs
The plate contained detailed descriptions of both species
(but more about the humanoids)
and about the events and weapons, including the fusion bomb
It contained also a description of the animals and saurians on earth,
including our pre-intelligent ancestor species
The rest of our knowledge about our evolution comes from skeletons and from the back-reading
and de/encoding of our DNA
You see, we know the real truth about our roots since 16,000 years
Before that time, there was a more religious idea of our creation
Question:
What has happened with the both alien species?
Answer:
We don’t know exactly
The surviving humanoids on earth obviously died in the years after the bomb
and others of their kind and the reptilians never came back to Earth
(as far as we know)
Concerning the reptilian aliens, there is a possibility that it was physically impossible for them to return,
because the matter between bubbles is sometimes in rapid movement
The current theory is, that both species had ceased to exist during the millions of years
Question:
You’ve mentioned skeletons of your kind
How can it be, that human scientists haven’t found any trace of you and your ancestors
if you really live for such a long time on this planet?
We have found many skeletons of primitive dinosaurs, but none of an advanced reptilian being
with a larger skull and brain and a hand with a thumb as you have described it before
Answer:
Yes, you have
But your “great” scientists were not able to reconstruct the skeletons completely,
because they wanted to reconstruct reptilian animals, not intelligent beings
You would laugh if you would know how many of the (especially small) saurian skeletons in your museums
are totally wrong constructions of never-existing beings,
because you used many bones which didn’t really belong together
and sometimes you made artificial bones if something was missing you needed to construct an “animal” saurian
Many of your scientists are aware of this problem, but they don’t make it public,
because they can’t explain it and they claim, that the right bones were just missing and their reconstruction
is right
Many bones of us were used for Iguanodon reconstructions,
for example the hands with the visible thumb
(look at an Iguanodon in a museum and you will see that I’m right)
A scientist in the country you call United States had built a nearly correct skeleton
of our kind some years ago, but the local government
(which is partly aware of our existence)
confiscated the reconstruction
As we live today
(and since thousands of years)
nearly completely beneath the earth, you will not find any cadavers or skeletons of us
Question:
You speak sometimes about underground cities and artificial sunlight
Do you mean something like a “hollow Earth” with this?
Is there a second sun inside our planet?
Answer:
No,
Earth is not really completely hollow and there is no second sun inside
This story is ridiculous and physically not possible
(even your species should be intelligent enough not to believe this)
Do you know how much mass a sun must have to produce energy and light for a longer time by fusion?
Do you really think that there could be a small active sun inside the planet?
When I talk about our subterranean home,
I talk about large cave systems
The caves you have discovered near to the surface are tiny in comparison to real caves and huge caverns deeper
in the earth
in a depth of 2,000 to 8,000 of your meters,
but connected with many hidden tunnels to the surface or to surface-near caves
and we live in large and advanced cities and colonies inside such caves
Major sites of us are beyond the Arctic, the Antarctic, Inner Asia, North America and Australia
If I talk about artificial sunlight in our cities I don’t mean a real sun but various technological sources of light
(including gravitational sources)
which illuminates the caverns and tunnels
There are special cave areas and tunnels with a strong UV light in every city
and we use that places to heat our blood
Furthermore,
we have also some surface sun places in remote areas, especially in America and Australia
Question:
Where can we find such a surface-near entry to your world?
Answer:
Do you really think I will tell you their exact location?
If you want to find such an entry, you have to search it by yourself
(but I would advise you not to do that)
When I came to the surface four days ago, I used an entry approximately 300 of your kilometers north from here
near to a large lake, but I doubt that you would be able to find it
(there are only a few entries in this part of the world – more are far more north and east)
As a little advice:
if you are in a narrow cave or in a tunnel or even in something that looks to you like an artificial mine shaft
and as deeper you walk as smoother appear the walls and if you feel unusual warm air streaming from the depth
or if you hear the rushing sound of streaming air in a ventilation or elevator shaft,
then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in the cave
with a door made of gray metal
If you would be able to open that door
(but I doubt this)
you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to the depth
This is probably an entry to our world
If you have reached this point, you should know that we are now definitely aware of your presence
You are already in big trouble if you have entered the round room,
but you should look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls
If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think,
because not every underground installation belongs to our kind
Some new tunnel systems are operated from alien races (including hostile races)
My general advice if you find yourself in a, for you, strange underground installation:
run away as fast as you can
Question:
You mentioned earlier that you use the name “Lacerta” when you are among humans
and that you enjoy it to be in the real sun on the surface of earth
But how can you be among humans?
You don’t look like us, so anyone will see that you belong to another species
Why has no one seen and described a being like you if your kind lives already since our
“creation”
together with us on the same planet
Can you explain that to me?
Answer:
First, my kind was of course seen and described
(and worshiped)
many times in your primitive past, for example in your religious writings like your Christian Bible
You can find descriptions and even simple drawings of us
also in the southern part of the American continent on various temples
So-called “wise” men from India and from the Asian mountains have described our species many times in writings,
together with other “wise” men from the African continent
I think we are the most mentioned non-human species
(maybe beside the “Illojim”)
in your history
If you don’t believe me, have a look at your history and you will see the truth in my words
Your “great” scientists called the belief in us “superstition” and “religion” and today’s “intelligent” humans
have forgotten our presence on the surface in the past
Furthermore,
our species is seen even today sometimes from human witnesses in its original shape on earth
or in our surface-near entries and tunnel systems, but fortunately you and your media didn’t take the reports of
such “crazies” serious
(that’s good for us and that’s the reason why we allow those people to see us as we really are)
Some of my species are also in direct contact with human scientists and politicians from the surface,
but this is top-secret —as you would call it— and nobody of your public knows anything about it
the matter of these meetings is generally the upcoming war with and between the alien species
and our assistance in this war
But there is also another explanation, why we can walk among you and why you are not able to recognize us:
” mimicry ”
The following may again sound unbelievable and even shocking to you, but as you have asked I will explain it
I have told you before, that we have more advanced mental abilities than your species and with
“more advanced”
I mean, that we are able to use telepathy and telekinesis from our birth on
(in fact, mother and new-born child communicate generally with telepathy during the first months)
without special training as you need it to activate these sleeping parts of your brain
The structure of our brain is a little bit different to yours and our hypothesis is larger
and more active than yours – especially when we are in sunlight
Our own abilities are very strong in comparison to yours, but weak in comparison to the
“matter-string/bubble”
mind forces of some of the alien species on this planet
I was never very good in that mind things,
but we all have these primary abilities and can use them for example for our protection or even for attack
When we are on the surface and we meet human beings
(even a large group of them – this makes no difference. All of your minds are like one mind)
we are able to “touch” their mind and induce them via telepathy the command
“See us as one of your kind”
and the weak human mind will accept this order without re-fusion and they will see us
(despite our reptilian look)
as normal humans
I’ve done this many times and you weak humans generally see me as an attractive brown-haired woman,
because I have created this special
“mimicry image”
in my mind years ago and I can induce it into your minds without problems
I’ve needed some time at the beginning to learn the use of the mimicry correctly,
but then it worked nearly automatically and I can even walk among a group of yours
and nobody will recognize what I am
There is a simple switch
(“See us as we really are / See us as we want you to see us”)
in your consciousness which was placed there from the
“Illojim”
when they created your kind and we can use this switch to convince you that you see humans when you look at us
(other aliens use this switch, too)
It is easier as you think
When there are meetings between your kind and aliens which seem to look exactly like yours,
these aliens have used that switch
and some of the meetings with man-like aliens can be also explained with meetings with my kind
When I met E.F. the first time, he saw me also as a normal human woman
and I remember that he was very frightened and shocked when I revealed him my real appearance
Question:
Do you mean, that you can really make me belief that I talk now with an attractive brown-haired human woman
instead of a reptilian being like you?
Answer:
Probably, but I don’t think so in your special case
When someone expects to see a human woman instead of me, I can do it without problems with his mind
(even with large groups)
because nobody expects to see a reptile woman
But I have allowed your mind to see me in my original appearance from our first meeting on
and I have never induced something into your mind,
so you have already realized that I’m not human
If I would now try to change this, it would probably lead to an absolute confusion or
to unconsciousness and I don’t want to harm you
As I have said I’m not very good in these things
Question:
That’s very scary
Can you kill with those abilities?
Answer:
Yes, but it’s forbidden
This means not that it was not done in previous times
Question:
Have both sexes these abilities?
Answer:
Yes
Question:
What about photos?
How do you appear on photos?
Answer:
This is a silly question
I appear on photos as a reptile being, because I can’t have influence on the photo or on the camera itself
but only on the photographers mind
If he or she would develop the film and show the photo to others, they would see me in my original shape
That’s the reason why it is forbidden for our kind to be filmed or photographed
and we must avoid every camera on the surface
That is very difficult
and we were filmed sometimes in the past without our knowledge,
especially from certain of your governments and secret agencies
Question:
What other commands can your kind induce into our minds?
Something like “Serve us” or “Obey”?
Answer:
This is again a strange question
We are not your enemy (most of us not) so why should we do this?
To answer your question:
it depends on the strength of the human mind and on the strength of the sending reptilian
There is no “Serve us” or “Serve me” switch in your mind,
so such a command is much more difficult to induce
If the human mind and consciousness is weak and the reptilian inducer is experienced in these things
and was some hours in the sun before he or she tries to do it,
then it could probably work for a certain time
There are secret teachings about such things,
but I’ve never learned anything about it
I use my primary abilities for mimicry and for communication with my own kind and sometimes
for other private things, but I’ve never used it to harm humans or their mind
I would appreciate it if we can end with this topic here
Question:
A last question: you’ve said earlier, that you can hide your UFOs?
Do you use the same abilities to do this?
Answer:
Yes,
but on a technical base
There is a powerful device inside each craft which is able to send an artificial signal to your minds
to convince you, that you see either nothing but only the sky or that you see normal aircraft like planes
instead of our ships
This isn’t used very often, because we avoid human public when we move in the atmosphere
If you are able to see our “UFOs” it means that the device is either defect or deactivated for some reason
The camouflage effect didn’t work on photos – to answer this possible question of you already in advance
but why should someone make a photo of the sky when he could not see anything unusual there
By the way, most of the surface-near entry points to our tunnels are also hidden with such a device and your
kind will generally see only normal cave walls instead of the door
That’s one reason why I’ve said that I doubt that you will be able to find such a secret door to our world
(but it has happened a few times in the past)
i thought they said last question but i am extremely glad to see this next question as it stems from my own mind
Question:
Back to your and our own history
You’ve mentioned the race of the “Illojim” who have created our human race
From where did they come and what did they look like?
What had exactly happened when they arrived?
Are they our “God”?
Answer:
The “Illojim” came from this universe,
from the solar system you call “Aldebaran” in your maps
They were a very tall humanoid species with usually blonde hairs and a very white skin
they avoided the sunlight,
because it hurt their skin and their eyes
This was absolutely unbelievable for a sun-loving species like us
They seemed to be intelligent and peaceful at the beginning
and we started a more or less friendly communication with them,
but later they showed their real intentions and plans:
they wanted to evolve the apes to a new breed and we were a disturbing factor for them
on their new zoo planet
At first, they caught around 10,000 or maybe even 20,000 of your simian ancestors
and they left the planet for some hundred years
When they returned, they brought your (now more human) ancestors back
Then they left Earth again for some thousands of years and the primitive pre-humans lived together with us
without major problems
(they were just afraid of our aircraft and technology)
The “Illojim” had taught their mind and enhanced their brain
and their body structure and they were now able to use tools and fire
The “Illojim” returned within 23,000 years seven times and accelerated the evolution speed
of certain of your kind
You must understand that you are not the first human civilization on the planet
The first advanced humans who lived at the same time with less-developed pre-humans,
because the “Illojim” had experimented with different speeds and stages of evolution with technology
and speech existed around 700,000 years ago on this planet
your scientists have not understand this, because they’ve found only the bones of the pre-humans
and some primitive cave drawings showing advanced humans and flying devices
This genetically advanced human breed lived together with us, but they avoided contact with my kind,
because the “Illojim” teachers had warned them with misleading purpose
that we are evil beings and that we lie to them
Well,
after some centuries the aliens decided to extinct their first creation
and they accelerated the evolution of a second and better test series and so on and so on
The truth is that your modern human civilization is not the first on this planet Earth but already the seventh
The buildings of the first breeds are lost, but the fifth civilization was the one,
which built the large triangular constructions you call
“Egyptian Pyramids”
today around 75,000 years ago
your Egyptians just found the large ancient pyramids in the sand
and tried not very successful to built similar constructions
and the sixth civilization was the one,
which built the cities which ruins you can find today beneath the sea in the so-called Bimini Area
around 16,000 years ago
The last creation of the seventh breed – of your series – was done just 8,500 years ago
and this is the only creation you can remember and to which your religious writings refer
You rely on archeological and paleontological artifacts which show you a wrong and short past,
but how should you know anything about the six civilizations before
And if you find evidence for their existence, you deny and misinterpret the facts
This is partly a programming of your mind and partly pure ignorance
I will tell you in the following only about your creations,
because the six previous mankind’s are lost and therefore they should not concern you
There was a long war between us and the “Illojim” and also between certain groups of the “Illojim” themselves,
because many of them were the opinion that the again-and-again creation of human species on this planet
makes no real sense
The last battles in this war were fought around 5,000 years ago in orbit and surface
The aliens used powerful sonic weapons to destroy our underground cities but on the other hand we were able
to destroy many of their surface installations and bases in space
The humans of your series were very frightened when they observed our battles
and they wrote it down in form of religious myths
(their mind was not able to understand what was really going on)
The “Illojim” – who appeared as “gods” for the sixth and seventh breed – told them that it is a war between
good and evil
and that they are the good
and we are the evil race
This depends certainly on the point of view
It was our planet before they arrived and before they started their evolution project with your kind
In my opinion, it was our right to fight for our planet
It was exactly 4,943 years ago – according to your time scale – that the Illojim left the planet again
for unknown reasons
(this is a very important date for us, because many of our historians called it a victory)
Fact is that we don’t know what had really happened
The “Illojim” were gone from one day to another, they vanished without a trace together with their ships
and we found most of their surface installations destroyed by them
The humans were on their own and your civilization developed
Many of us were in contact with certain
(more southern)
tribes of your species in the coming centuries and we were able to convince some of them
that we are not the “Evil” the aliens wanted them to believe
During the time from 4,900 years ago to today, many other alien species arrived the planet
(some of them used the old teaching and programming of your mind and “played” again God for you)
but the “Illojim” themselves never came back
They had left the planet for a duration of some thousand years also earlier,
so we expect their return one day in future to end their project or to maybe extinct also the seventh breed,
but we don’t really know what has happened to them
(to answer this question of you in advance)
Your current civilization doesn’t know anything about your real origin,
about your real past,
about your real world and universe and you know very little about us and our past
And you know nothing about the things to come in near future
As long as you will not understand and believe my words
I tell you the truth because we are not your enemy as long there is danger for your species
Your enemies are already here and you have not understood
Open your eyes or you will be in big trouble soon
If you haven’t believed anything of the things I’ve told you before,
then you should really believe and remember this
Question:
Why do you think I don’t believe you?
Answer:
I have a certain feeling that you don’t believe me, despite the fact that I’m sitting here in front of you
Everything I have told you in the last two hours is the absolute truth about our world
Question:
How many alien species are active on earth at the moment?
Answer:
As far as we know 14 species
11 from this universe,
2 from another “bubble”
and 1 very advanced from a very different plain
Don’t ask me for names, because nearly all are not pronounceable for you,
eight of them are not pronounceable even for us
Most of the species – especially the more advanced – are just studying you as animals
and they are not very dangerous for you and for us and we work together with some of them,
but three species are hostile,
including the one which was in contact with some of your governments and exchanged their technology
for copper and other important things and which had betrayed your kind
There was and is a “cold war” between two of these hostile races during the last 73 years
and the third species seemed to be the “winner” in this useless struggle
We expect a more “hot” war between them and you in the near future
(I would say in the next 10 or 20 years)
and we are worried about that development
In the last time, there were some rumors about a new, fifteenth species which had arrived on Earth
just 3 or 4 years ago,
but we don’t know anything about their intentions
and we were not in contact with them till now
Maybe the rumors are wrong
Question:
What do the hostile alien races want?
Answer:
Various raw materials, including copper for their technology, your water
(or better the hydrogen in your water, which is a source of energy in advanced fusion processes)
and certain chemical elements in the air
Furthermore,
two of the species are also interested in your body,
in your human tissue and blood,
because their own genetic structure is defect through bad evolution and radiation
(as far as we know)
and they need intact strings from your kind and from animals to repair their own genetic
again and again,
but they are not really able to repair the defects completely because their DNA and your DNA is not fully
compatible
(my own species is absolutely incompatible with them, so they are not very interested in us)
and they try to make more compatible crossbreeds between you and them by use of artificial fertilization’s
and artificial wombs
We suppose that the coming war between the three races or between you and one or all of them will be fought
for raw material, hydrogen, air and DNA
Question:
Is this the reason for the “abductions”?
Answer:
Partly, especially when the aliens took egg and sperm samples from you
Sometimes the abductors belong to another and more advanced race and they just want to study your body
and your mind
(which is more interesting for some of them than your solid body)
as you would study a primitive animal
As I have said, three alien species are hostile and this means that they do not care for your fate
or for your life and people who were “abducted” by them came very rarely back alive
If someone is able to report about an abduction, it means in my opinion that he or she has not met
one of the aggressive species or that he or she is a very, very lucky human to be alive
Advanced and “friendly” races also took sometimes egg and sperm samples, but for other reasons
Question:
You’ve said there are only 14 species active on earth
But why describe people who saw alien beings so many different and bizarre types of them?
Answer:
I think I have already answered to this question
As I have said, most of the alien races have much more advanced mind abilities than you or even me
(there is just one alien race completely without such abilities)
They are able to appear in your mind and memory as whatever they want and this induced
“image”
has nothing to do with their real appearance
You remember them as normal humans or grey dwarfs or even extremely bizarre animals
because they want you to remember that or sometimes they want you to completely forget
anything about a meeting with them
Another example:
you can for example remember that you were just in a normal of your human hospitals
and that some doctors were examining you and you think not further about what have happened to you
(maybe till you discover that there is no hospital in the street were you supposed it)
but in fact you were examined by them in one of their laboratories
You can’t rely on your mind in this case
They appear in different shapes to you to confuse you and to make so-called abduction witnesses who were able
to remember the events – or who believe they are able to remember – ridiculous in the public
and as far as we know, they are successful
Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet
and only eight of them abduct humans at the moment
(again as far as we know)
In addition, not everyone of your “abductees” is one and some of the aliens and their reports
are really just imagination or lies
Question:
How can we protect ourselves against this influence on our mind?
Answer:
I don’t know
I doubt you can, because your mind is like an open book to read and write for nearly every species I know
This is partly the guilty of the “Illojim” themselves,
because they had constructed or better mis-constructed
(partly intentionally)
your mind and your consciousness without real protection mechanisms
If you are aware that someone tries to manipulate your mind,
you can only concentrate on that suspicion and try to analyze every one of your thoughts and memories
Very important:
don’t close your eyes
(this would lead to a different form of brain waves which are more easy to access)
and don’t sit or lay down to rest
If you stay awake during the first minutes,
you can maybe try to filter the other thoughts and waves in your brain and the inducer will give up after some
minutes if he or she is not successful because it will start to hurt his or her own brain
This is very difficult and certainly painful and it can harm you,
so better don’t try to resist but it would be the only possibility you have
However, you can try this only with the more weaker species, not with the strong
Question:
What do you mean with “one species comes from a very different plain”?
Answer:
Before I can explain that correctly to you, you must be able to understand the universe
and this would mean a maybe useless teaching of your mind
(including the removal of some barriers)
of many weeks and with teaching I mean not only teaching by words
I have said this with your word “plain” or “level” because you have again no better word in your vocabulary
and dimension would be in this case absolutely wrong
(it’s rather wrong even for another “bubble”)
because a dimension can’t exist without plain
If you would be a species living in another or over the plain
and if you would be furthermore able to enter plains without technology so that your body is not made of
that kind of matter you know, then you would be the mightiest being you can imagine
This very advanced race I’ve mentioned had developed outside of here and they’ve evolved in fact
over billions of years
They would be able to destroy all of you and us and everything with just a single thought
We were in contact with them only 3 times in our whole history,
because their interest in our planet is different from that of all other races
They are definitely no danger for you or us
Question:
What will happen when the war begins?
Answer:
This is difficult to answer
It depends on the enemy race and on their tactic
“War”
is not always that primitive thing you humans mean with the word, “War” can be fought on various levels
One possibility they have is the “destruction” of your social system by influence on political leaders,
another is the use of advanced weapon systems which can cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions
or other disasters
(including weather disasters)
which may seem natural to you
The special fields from copper-fusion I’ve mentioned earlier are able to have an influence on our global weather
I think they will not attack the planet directly before the human civilization is weak,
because even you have possibilities to destroy their craft
(but not many)
Let me say, that we are not absolutely sure if there will be really such a “hot” war already in the next years
I don’t want to talk further about this
Question:
This is the end of the interview
Do you want to say a last sentence or message?
Answer:
Open your eyes and see
Don’t believe only in your wrong history or your scientists or your politicians
Some of them know the truth about various things,
but they don’t inform the public to avoid confusion and panic
I think your species is not as bad as some of my kind thinks
and it would be a pity to observe your end
That’s everything I can say
Go through your world with open eyes and you will see – or maybe not
Your kind is ignorant
Question:
Do you think anyone will believe that this interview is the truth?
Answer:
No,
but it is an interesting experiment for my social studies
We will meet again in some months and you will tell me then what has happened after
the publication of my message
Maybe there is hope for your kind
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Tony Gray’Owl
April / 05 / 2011
i am going to have to think long and hard on this one.